AUA just hiked its tuition from to $18,220 per semester excluding other fees and cost of living. How do students afford to pay this?
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Aua 2016 tuition hike
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UK clinical Rotations
What is it like to do clinical rotations in the UK? How hard is it to get a US residency after doing core rotations in the UK?
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Avalon Roomier August 2016
Looking for a possible roommate to find and share an apartment with.
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HMI and Medical University of Lublin highly NOT recommended
There are a lot things I am disappointed with, that I dont know what to start with.
Let me begin by emphasizing the fact, that this is my personal opinion about Medical University of Lublin (MUL) the school I attended. I am trying here to warn future applicants, make them aware of things that I was not aware of and maybe motivate them to a deeper or alternative search for their educational path.
In a few bullet points, which I will expand on later, I want to show the main downsides of this institution
- Very expensive
- Generally not good teaching staff
- High expectation of students vs low standard of teaching and working of university staff
- Not student friendly
- Overcrowded
- Badly organized class schedule
- Barely anything related to NBME or USMLE preparation
- Hard to get any administrative issues fixed
- Anatomy department as a worst department in the whole etc.
- poor organization of clinical ratations, (uncaring staff, badly organized)
HMI (Hope Medical) is a recruiting agency for MUL and couple of other medical schools in Poland. They claim, they represent students' interests in MUL and associate hospitals in the US in which their students can do clinical rotations.Their affiliated school are recognized by California and New York medical boards, and have illegibility for financial aid. I am not going to go into details about all these stuffs, but I will present some things what I was not aware of before deciding to take my studies.
It is easy to see tuition cost for MUL and HMI on the HMI website. These are solid numbers which are relatively lower in comparison to the tuition cost of US medical schools. That was one of my biggest motivators. Although, first look at tuition makes one lean towards HMI and MUL, but it is not so pretty as it looks.
The cost of rotation seems quite high. Most of American medical schools and other Polish medical schools other than associated with HMI have their clinical rotation cost included in general tuition. So in comparison to other polish med school HMI prices are extremely high.
There are graduates from MUL and HMI, as well as graduates from other polish medical school practicing in the US. Advantage of going with HMI is to pay tens of thousands of dollars toward possibility of being able to do clinical rotation in America. The reality is, that majority of students completing their required basic science course are not ready to take any type of tests (NBME and USMLE step 1) that allow them to do clinical rotation in the US, so they end up doing them in Poland with slightly less cost, postponing exam time and continuing costly living abroad situation. This phenomenon is related to very poor academic standards (teaching staff, curriculum etc). Generally students completing their basic science (either 6 or 4 year program) can be divided into 3 groups. The first and very small group (estimating less than 10%) pass their USMLE step 1 after 4 or 2 years respectively and proceed with education as they would do this in a US med school . It is possible, highly unlikely, but it is. Remaining student can be further divided into two categories. One of them takes break to study for USMLE back home for about a year hoping to pass and continue clinical rotation in the US, which in most cases end up going back to Poland to do clinical part and taking another break to study afterwards. The second group stays in Poland for clinical rotations and takes the NBME and USMLE step 1 right after basic science or takes a break to study for mentioned exams. The group that ends up doing rotations in Poland does not take an advantage of a main thing offered by HMI associated US hospitals, and end up paying similar amount to the cost of the US rotation (housing, home travel etc)
One can say that it all depends on a students motivation and determination to get things done on their own. And it is true. There are people out there who did all that despite everything what is wrong. The problem is that school brings students down to its level. And if there are people who are strong enough to do everything by themselves, they dont need the middle institution HMI and pay them to help became certified US physician. They can do it anywhere in the world and pass the USMLE
HMI and associated polish universities are the perfect examples of a great marketing strategy that sell idea. The key word 'hope' in their name. I saw too many good people earning medical diploma and HOPING to make a US certification. This is well oiled machine focused on making big bucks. Accepting students from Caribbeans, other Europeans medical schools to overcrowd facilities and staff, give them HOPE and packet their tuition.
As there is so many foreign students (American, Europeans, Asians, Arabic) with highest tuition cost in Poland they have class schedule on Saturday and sometimes on Sundays, because administration is not able to accommodate all these people to the amount of teacher and facilities available. Polish students (on polish language programs) for whom education is free do not have any classes during weekends.
The last paragraph is about anatomy department. It is, and it has always been the worst department in the entire university (cause of its management). It is separated from the dean's office which makes it very difficult to get anything done; eg. schedule changes, requests etc. As a "seprate" part of the MUL it feels very important and independent and creates its own ridiculous rules and regulations. For example, curriculum is set up without coordination with other departments, and its main priority is to accommodate BIS (begin in summer) program. What is more, the studies program is organized in a cunning way to unable dissatisfied students to switch the university (it differs from the other Polish medical universities ), but MUL exepts all the students transfering from other schools. Brilliant solution for the school but students have to pay their price for it. Not to mentiot the fact that the university has not enouh space and teachers. As a result groups are big, classes are shorter than scheduled and totally unorganized. There is barely any time with cadavers ( less than an hour a month in a group of 10 - 15 students ). There is ONE thing that the University performs in a flawless and organized manner. It has mastered the way to benefit and profit the school by ripping students off to get additional money in every possible way.
I could elaborate more on things mentioned above, but it would take another few pages. I can answer some questions here on the forum or you can try to contact Facebook groups of the school you are interested in.
P.S.
Big support to hmilie member!
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How to increase your chances to match through SOAP
Good afternoon, everyone!
As we are waiting for the match week, I wanted to share a very cool video that explains how SOAP works and how it can increase your chances to match. The video is fun and very encouraging. Check it out!
youtube.com/watch?v=U9b3RfM7Hw8
As we are waiting for the match week, I wanted to share a very cool video that explains how SOAP works and how it can increase your chances to match. The video is fun and very encouraging. Check it out!
youtube.com/watch?v=U9b3RfM7Hw8
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A few questions from a future SO
Hi all,
I hope I am posting this in the right area. Please forgive me if I'm not!
My fiance will be applying to both AUC and Saba this summer. We just have a few issues to figure out. We have two small dogs who are super important to us. One dog I've had from since before we met, and the other one is a brand new puppy we just got in January. It doesn't look like bringing them to Saba would be an option, but St Maarten looks a lot more dog friendly.
We are not basing choosing a school around our dogs, but as the SO going, it would be nice for me to have them with me when he's busy (which I'm sure will be A LOT). So for example if he only got into Saba, we would leave the pups with my parents (who basically love the dogs more than us haha), and if he got into both, he would choose AUC. I actually have a friend of a very good friend currently at Saba and she's given us LOTS of great info which is helpful but Saba seems like a very different environment than St Maarten as an island.
Does anyone here have pets at AUC? I'm a total worry wart and convinced some sort of spider or scorpion is going to hurt them. So here are all my questions:
1. Is it safe to bring our small dogs there, one will be 4lbs and the other is 8lbs (re: dangerous wildlife)? Is the heat too much? They are pomeranians.
2. What is the vet and pet food access like? I'm actually considering making their food as they eat a raw diet and I know I wont be able to find that there.
3. Do any of the SO's work? I will be selling my company to come down there, so it's super weird for me to not work. Is there a possibility for me to do something like teach in my field there?
4. What areas are a good place to live in St Maarten? We would have a budget of about $1,000-$2,000 per month. I read a news item about a Canadian student who was nearly killed in St Kitts and have been having nightmares ever since.
5. Did you buy a car down there? How does insurance for that work?
Thank you so much in advance. Again, if this is in the wrong spot please let me know and I will repost in the correct place.
I hope I am posting this in the right area. Please forgive me if I'm not!
My fiance will be applying to both AUC and Saba this summer. We just have a few issues to figure out. We have two small dogs who are super important to us. One dog I've had from since before we met, and the other one is a brand new puppy we just got in January. It doesn't look like bringing them to Saba would be an option, but St Maarten looks a lot more dog friendly.
We are not basing choosing a school around our dogs, but as the SO going, it would be nice for me to have them with me when he's busy (which I'm sure will be A LOT). So for example if he only got into Saba, we would leave the pups with my parents (who basically love the dogs more than us haha), and if he got into both, he would choose AUC. I actually have a friend of a very good friend currently at Saba and she's given us LOTS of great info which is helpful but Saba seems like a very different environment than St Maarten as an island.
Does anyone here have pets at AUC? I'm a total worry wart and convinced some sort of spider or scorpion is going to hurt them. So here are all my questions:
1. Is it safe to bring our small dogs there, one will be 4lbs and the other is 8lbs (re: dangerous wildlife)? Is the heat too much? They are pomeranians.
2. What is the vet and pet food access like? I'm actually considering making their food as they eat a raw diet and I know I wont be able to find that there.
3. Do any of the SO's work? I will be selling my company to come down there, so it's super weird for me to not work. Is there a possibility for me to do something like teach in my field there?
4. What areas are a good place to live in St Maarten? We would have a budget of about $1,000-$2,000 per month. I read a news item about a Canadian student who was nearly killed in St Kitts and have been having nightmares ever since.
5. Did you buy a car down there? How does insurance for that work?
Thank you so much in advance. Again, if this is in the wrong spot please let me know and I will repost in the correct place.
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EXIT NBME Exam Post-Clinicals - Dominica
Anyone here has taken the NBME Exam recently?
This is a requirement for students who have finished Clinicals but have not yet taken the USMLE.
This is a requirement for students who have finished Clinicals but have not yet taken the USMLE.
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Loan Forgivness
I'm surprised that more people don't talk about getting into a loan forgiveness program. Considering the extra debt you accrue as a foreign grad, I would think more people would be doing it. Who cares if you have to work in some remote area for 2-3 years if your $400,000 debt load is payed off? This seems like a great option and something I'd be totally willing to look into.
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Good observerships / externships in surgery near Chicago?
Anyone know of any good observerships / externships in surgery near Chicago?
thanks
thanks
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Good observerships /externships in surgery near Chicago?
Anyone know of any good observerships / externships in surgery near Chicago?
Thanks
Thanks
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Good observerships / externships in surgery near Chicago?
Hi
Does anyone know of any good observerships / externships in surgery near Chicago?
Thanks
Does anyone know of any good observerships / externships in surgery near Chicago?
Thanks
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August 2016-plane tickets
Did anyone that is attending beginning in August at AUA get plane tickets? Suggestions on how to get the best plane ticket prices.thanks
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Do Step 1 Questions While You Eat, Drive, Workout!
Hey fellow Step 1 test-takers--
I came across this awesome, free resource that offers an audio version of publicly available, official USMLE Step 1 practice questions.
I often felt guilty to take study breaks to eat, workout, or even drive a restaurant/gym, and this is definitely the best resource I've found that has made these times productive! It is also great to give your eyes a rest, and I've used this to study while winding down before I go to bed.
It can easily be played on your phone/ipad/laptop and is posted on SoundCloud at this link: copy and paste into your browser
https://soundcloud.com/step-1-audiocast/usmle-practice-questions-block-1
https://soundcloud.com/step-1-audiocast/usmle-practice-questions-block-2
Give it a try--hope this helps you all too!!
Best of luck!
I came across this awesome, free resource that offers an audio version of publicly available, official USMLE Step 1 practice questions.
I often felt guilty to take study breaks to eat, workout, or even drive a restaurant/gym, and this is definitely the best resource I've found that has made these times productive! It is also great to give your eyes a rest, and I've used this to study while winding down before I go to bed.
It can easily be played on your phone/ipad/laptop and is posted on SoundCloud at this link: copy and paste into your browser
https://soundcloud.com/step-1-audiocast/usmle-practice-questions-block-1
https://soundcloud.com/step-1-audiocast/usmle-practice-questions-block-2
Give it a try--hope this helps you all too!!
Best of luck!
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Fully Furnished Studio Apartment - Staten Island University Hospital North
Available immediately; less than a mile from Hospital; nothing needed except your clothing, toiletries and food; all else supplied - twin bed, sofa, t.v., wifi, fridge, stove, microwave, dishwasher, closet space, sheets, towels, pots, pans, silverware, dishes, cups, glasses. House built in 2001; apartment fully finished in 2012; very happy medical students have stayed with us :) $900 per month, which includes everything. Call or text 1-917-251-6367. I will send photos. Have a fabulous day!
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Glut of graduates in Malaysia
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/03/11/medical-graduate-glut-a-problem-dean-set-up-independent-task-force-to-deal-with-critical-issue/
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marina cote azur 1 bedroom apt loft
Available en of April $1500![marina cote azur 1 bedroom apt loft-img_5431.jpg]()
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walking distance to AUC.
Fully furnished Luxury Apt for 1 Adult included tv , printer , washing machine .
Loft apt super quite on the lagoon
king size bed , new Kitchen , new bath room.
Non smoking , No pet and quite tenant only , landlord on Site .
(Internet 2 MB included ,pool , Automatic power Generator , CCTV security camera ).
Separate Electric Meter.
Certainly the most quite place around AUC.
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tel:+17215202505
walking distance to AUC.
Fully furnished Luxury Apt for 1 Adult included tv , printer , washing machine .
Loft apt super quite on the lagoon
king size bed , new Kitchen , new bath room.
Non smoking , No pet and quite tenant only , landlord on Site .
(Internet 2 MB included ,pool , Automatic power Generator , CCTV security camera ).
Separate Electric Meter.
Certainly the most quite place around AUC.
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tel:+17215202505
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Looking for male roomate
Hi
My name is Ruben and I am looking for a male roomate who is looking for a quiet and clean space where you can rest & study in a very respectful ambient.
The department has only two bedrooms and enought space for someone who is looking for a minimalist life style. It is fully furnished.
Coffe lovers go first.
Rent is only 6000 pesos shared out by two: $3000 pesos each one.
Feel free to mail to rubenamadorarias at gmail dot com or whatsapp to three-three-three-one-nine-two-two-six-four- five
It is located in Manuel Avila Camacho Av, one block close to ISSSTE Gomez Farias Hospital, and i could say between ICB and Angel Leaño Hospital.
My name is Ruben and I am looking for a male roomate who is looking for a quiet and clean space where you can rest & study in a very respectful ambient.
The department has only two bedrooms and enought space for someone who is looking for a minimalist life style. It is fully furnished.
Coffe lovers go first.
Rent is only 6000 pesos shared out by two: $3000 pesos each one.
Feel free to mail to rubenamadorarias at gmail dot com or whatsapp to three-three-three-one-nine-two-two-six-four- five
It is located in Manuel Avila Camacho Av, one block close to ISSSTE Gomez Farias Hospital, and i could say between ICB and Angel Leaño Hospital.
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primary contract, HMI application
this is the primary contract from HMI
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primary contract, HMI application
please read this contract, then see my posts on the lublin page were I discuss some important points
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Study dentistry in Bulgaria/Plovdiv
Hi,
i would like to apply for the dental course in Plovdiv/Bulgaria. Is it possible to transfer to other schools in europe after 2-3 years, are bg students easily accepted in other schools? Do i need an agent for that or can i do that on my own?
i would like to apply for the dental course in Plovdiv/Bulgaria. Is it possible to transfer to other schools in europe after 2-3 years, are bg students easily accepted in other schools? Do i need an agent for that or can i do that on my own?
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